Beers with Talos

Threats, beers and no silver bullets

Listen to Talos security experts as they bring their hot takes on current security topics and Talos research to the table. Along the way Hazel, Mitch, Matt and a rotating chair of special guests will talk about anything (and we mean anything) that's on their minds, from the latest YouTube trends to Olympic curling etiquette. New episodes every other Thursday.

  • For the Record, No Comment

    Kaitlin Acharya joins the Beers with Talos crew to take us inside the world of threat intelligence: what happens when Talos spots something that could become a major threat, how her team tracks changes in threat actor behavior, and how intelligence moves from an investigation into detection content. She also faces some tougher questions involving tennis, Derry Girls and an evil genie.

    We also attempt to extract some information about Kaitlin’s former life at a certain intelligence agency. Results are limited.

    Our listener question asks which high school subject produces the best cybersecurity professionals. We get to that after arguing over whether it’s “math” or “maths” (it’s maths). 

    In Make Hazel a Hacker, Dave puts Hazel in charge of the security budget for a manufacturer of AI-enabled smart toilets. Bill’s Reason Not to Quit looks back at the people and community that make Hacker Summer Camp worth surviving, before Joe’s Corner picks up that thread with a reminder of just how much the cybersecurity community can change someone’s career.


  • "I Pay You $200 a Month!" - When Threat Actors Argue With AI

    Cybercriminals are increasingly relying on AI, but in doing so, they're creating an entirely new source of threat intelligence.

    This week, Talos researcher Arnaud Zobec joins Hazel, Bill, Joe and Dave to discuss what happens when attackers leave behind AI prompt logs, agent configurations and other unexpected artifacts. From jailbreak attempts to agentic workflows and accidental infrastructure leaks, the team discusses what these artifacts reveal about attacker behavior, and where/how AI is changing offensive operations and campaigns. Here's the link to that blog https://blog.talosintelligence.com/keep-going-bro-youve-got-this-a-data-driven-look-at-how-adversaries-are-weaponizing-ai/

    Also in this episode: our listener question tackles the surprising bad actor developments in over the past year, plus a bonus question on walk-on songs officially makes us a music podcast. Bill puts Hazel through her paces with an old school SOC question in 'Make Hazel a hacker'. And Dave leaves everyone with chills.


  • Keeping Up With the Cybercriminals

    In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Dave and Joe are joined by Kendall McKay to dive into the soap opera of modern cybercrime. From rival gangs launching smear campaigns against one another to reputation systems, trusted intermediaries and dark web "customer reviews". Turns out, every ransomware operation is one passive-aggressive group chat message away from falling apart.

    Kendall chats to us about how AI is changing the economics of cybercrime, why it's helping inexperienced attackers get through the front door (only to leave them wondering what to do next), and how defenders can prioritize their defenses.

    We also discuss the rise of supply chain attacks, and where the lines between cybercrime and state sponsored activity are beginning to blur.

    Elsewhere in the episode, Joe once again attempts to Make Hazel a Hacker, Dave explains how a McDonald's receipt became an unlikely piece of counterintelligence, we preview Black Hat 2026, and Bill wraps everything up with his practical takeaways for defenders.


  • Space Pirates, Living Off Trusted Services, & Bill Declares Food War

    In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Dave and Joe are joined by Talos Security Research Engineer James Nutland to discuss Living Off Trusted Services (LOTS) - a growing technique where attackers use platforms such as GitHub, Google Drive, Microsoft services and Telegram for command and control, malware delivery and data exfiltration.

    We explore why this trend is growing, how it differs from Living Off the Land (LOTL)....and Lord of the Rings (LOTR)....why trusted services create new detection challenges, and what defenders should be monitoring.

    Also in this episode:

    • Data centers in space, when physics still has to physics.
    • A USA vs UK Independence Day food showdown.
    • Hazel faces another round of Make Hazel a Hacker.
    • A new Reason Not to Quit looks at the latest successes from Operation Endgame.
    • Bill gets his own corner.

    Here's the LOTS project repository mentioned in the episode https://lots-project.com/


  • AI Is Finding Bugs Faster. Now What?

    AI is accelerating vulnerability discovery, so what impact is that having on defenders?

    In this episode of Beers with Talos, Hazel, Bill, Joe, and Dave are joined by Nick Biasini to unpack what attackers are doing with AI-assisted vulnerability discovery, why local models rather than frontier models may be a more attractive route for them, and the vendors who are now drowning in a flood of bug reports (many of them junk) as AI sifts through decades of technical debt with nothing but time and patience.

    We also kick things off with a listener question about threat trends and the FIFA World Cup, which leads to a discussion about whether any of us could resist Rickrolling the entire planet.

    Also in this episode: Joe attempts to "Make Hazel a Hacker" and phish the Pope. Plus, we launch a new segment called “Reasons not to Quit” in which we celebrate defender wins.


  • 25 Years of Uninterrupted Persistence

    Hazel, Dave and Joe plot to celebrate Bill's 25 years at Talos with stories and a good old fashioned roast.

    The team also covers the latest security headlines, including AI-assisted vulnerability research, and why attackers still can’t resist abusing trusted systems (or Roblox).

    They also break down the latest Cisco Talos Incident Response Quarterly Trends report, including:

    • Phishing’s return as the top initial access vector
    • AI-generated credential harvesting pages built in minutes
    • Crimson Collective activity and GitHub token exposure
    • Pre-ransomware incidents and early disruption
    • Why logging (still) matters more than ever

    Read the full report at https://blog.talosintelligence.com/ir-trends-q1-2026/

    And for more guidance for defenders, check out this episode of The Talos Threat Perspective https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppL7JBshK8

    Plus: Crossbows, Metasploit nostalgia, and why, despite everything, security fundamentals still win.


  • Gravy, Glutes, and the Talos Year in Review

    Hazel, Bill, Joe and Dave break down (sometimes in the literal sense) the 2025 Talos Year in Review which is available  now at blog.talosintelligence.com/2025yearinreview

    The team, supported as always by the Turkey Lurkey Man, dives into the biggest cybersecurity trends of the year, including:

    ·       The rapid weaponization of vulnerabilities

    ·       Why identity abuse showed up everywhere 

    ·       Ransomware trends

    ·       A rise in APT investigations

    ·       What defenders should prioritize heading into the year ahead

    Before that, we discuss the cyber activity tied to the situation in the Middle East (full details on our blog https://blog.talosintelligence.com/talos-developing-situation-in-the-middle-east).

    There’s also an alarming amount of discussion about glutes. And gravy.

    Download the full 2025 Talos Year in Review:
    blog.talosintelligence.com/2025yearinreview


  • It's the B+ Team: Matt Olney returns

    It's the one, the only, it's Matt Olney! We are delighted to have Matt back to talk with the crew about about the most random things, including TikTok diagnosing us with ADHD, inspiring vtubers, K-Pop Demon Hunters, ransomware in hospitals (the serious bit), attacker use of AI, why 1999-era tricks are still undefeated, and an entirely reasonable number of desserts.

    We recorded this episode on 20 February - please see the Talos blog for the latest on the developing situation in the Middle East https://blog.talosintelligence.com/talos-developing-situation-in-the-middle-east/

    Links to some things Matt mentioned:

    The MapMen: https://www.youtube.com/@JayForeman

    Ironmouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_2JehaKOw&list=RDP1_2JehaKOw&start_radio=1


  • Ranksgiving Returns: The Appetizer Uprising

    Guess who’s back? Hazel, Bill and Joe welcome back fresh-from-parental-leave Dave Liebenberg, who has returned with a new baby, and some truly chaotic Thanksgiving opinions.    

    We kick things off with the security headlines. Joe gets spicy about a recent “AI-orchestrated cyber campaign” report.  Dave brings us the poetic news that AI models can apparently be jailbroken with a well-placed limerick. Hazel challenges the others to a guessing game about just how much cyberattacks cost the UK, and Bill discusses what’s top of mind for organizations right now.  

    But really, you know what you’re here for: the annual RanksGiving extravaganza. Dave boldly ranks his top five Thanksgiving dishes (with a new twist for this year, because apparently we need to re-engage the ‘youth’ before they’re lost to TikTok forever.) Cue the outrage, the gravy discourse, and a heartfelt (touching on amorous) defense of gluttony from Bill.  

    Happy holidays everyone! May your gravy be thick and your cyber incidents few. See you in 2026! 



  • Two Marshalls, One Podcast

    Talos' Vice President Christopher Marshall (the “real Marshall,” much to Joe’s displeasure) joins Hazel, Bill, and Joe for a very real conversation about leading people when the world won’t stop moving. We start with Marshall’s days in the Navy’s nuclear program and the art of translating deeply technical work for non-technical leaders. We then get into how he joined Talos (“you WILL do this for me”), why being right beats being first, and how to keep a team steady and mission focussed when the news cycle is anything but. Marshall also talks about the decisions that shaped his life and career, what he’s had to let go of as he’s moved up, and the gloriously nerdy hobbies that keep him grounded.


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